Drallah rakha sindhu
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Post by Drallah rakha sindhu on Jun 12, 2006 14:26:13 GMT -5
Hello to all gujjars, Indian gujjars must have to ask to rename GUJJARDESA to present rajasthan and gujjarat to west u.p.if calcutta can be colcota,madras to chenai.bombay to mumbai then why cant they renamed former gujjar areas. Dr.allah rakha sindhu
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Post by KPS Gujjar on Jun 13, 2006 2:20:30 GMT -5
Hello Dr. A. R. Sindhu,
Kolkatta, Chennai, Mumbai etc does not signify any caste. There is already enough castiest prejudices.
Please reconsider if you put forward such demands there will be Yadavistan, Jat Pradesh, Rajput Pradesh etc etc.
By the way what are we going to achieve by this ? They renamed CP as Indira Chowk and Rajiv Chowk .. if you ask any auto rickshaw driver to take you to Indria Chowk/Rajiv Chowk he may show all his ignorance.
What's in the name .. there is a old saying
Lakshmi kare chakari .. Dhanpat khode ghaas,
achche achche mit gaye naam ki kya bisaat
Let us put our energy for betterment of our community.
Regards
KPS Gujjar
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Post by AP Singh on Jun 13, 2006 2:58:55 GMT -5
There are already so many places named after Gujjars. Moreover the Gujjars ruled all over India for more than 200 years and the territories ruled by them were much bigger in size what were ruled other rulers before and after the Muslim conquest. The terrotories ruled by Gujjars earlier were ruled by Mughals and Britishers later. Hence now it is not possible and advisable to rename anything about any particular caste or religion since India is a true secular country.
The regiments in the name of the castes were made by the britishers for the people who were friendly to them. Like Akbar made his generals from clans who accepted his authority and not from the enemy camp of Guhilots of Chittor and Chauhans of Ajmer. This is most unfortunate that Indian governments still uses the same identification of these regiments in a free and secular India. This practice should be stopped immediately.
One thing the people should understand that the freedom or to fight for freedom need sacrifice which our forefathers were fortunete to give it for the freedom of our motherland. Today there are many pet dogs of the riche people who live in aircondition rooms and enjoy a better lifestyle than the ordinary people but are not free. They are always referred as Kutta even though they are most faithful animals to their masters but they are unfiathful to their own community since they will fight with their own people (dogs in this case) at the slightest signal of their masters. So there is a difference between bravery for a fight for the motherland country and a fight against the motherland.
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Post by drallah rakha sindhu on Jun 18, 2006 13:17:51 GMT -5
Hello to all gujjars, I am shocked after reading the above views that there is no value of name in their eyes.is it not strange that gujjar's ancesstors always gave their heads for the pride of this gujjar name and now the some persons of gujjar community thinks thatwhat difference it makes.i asked to them yhat why partihars wrote gurjar with their name &why their force was called gujjar force & why the india of that is called MAHA GUJJARAT ,why chauhan gave name gujjarat to modern ajmer,why tanwars gave name to gujjari mahal,why SOLANKIS GAVE NAME TO GUJJARAT(KATHIAWAR),why above &parmars call themselves gujjar in stone inscriptions.thats why you are calling proudly yourself gujjar.suppose in past if those people had not write gurjar with their nameor not named the areas.could you proove now that those all were gujjars.its only because of name that now serious historians not accepts rajputs as a caste.rajput's own historians mr.ojha accepts that there was no area namely rajputana before the arrivals of britishers in india. british gave name rajputana to make them confident and feel proud. (before 1805)(rajutana ka itihhas).under this influence now gujjars also call the rajasthan as brave land of rajputs.now your all history is in the accont of rajputs but think why gujjarat (kathaiawar)history still belong to gujjars thats only because of the name of that area,there was no way for rajput sided historians to proove them rajputs. I have not askedthat give new gujjar name to that areas.i just asked to rename rajasthan as gujjar des whicw was named by your forefathers,.i assure you when you will demand it you will see result at once.Iaccept that calcuta to bcolcota, bombay to mumbai are not castes name but where far i know madras to chenai in chenai is a caste name of south india. remember there is a lot of difference between a chowk and province.Shamsher hakla has already asked a new province GUJJARITAN in j&k then why you not have courage to ask to rename rajasthan as gujjardes.believe me it will change the whole status of gujjars FALSE rajputi aan will be cinvert into real gujjari aan.you need aan area badly whose every thing have to recognised by you like culture,language and traditions.Like jats have punjab,yadvas have bihar and rajputs have rajasthan.if other provinces like punjab,u.p, e.t.c. can be divided than why cant be rajasthan. Name is always important why the other castes are not allowing to finish the regiments of their name.its not much important that british gave castes name to regiments important is that why they named them.its clear to fell much proud than others ,are they not succesfull? Name is so important in your life because if you not have name than you have nothing.for that somebody have said "The ill-known is better than unknown"like pakistani gujjars.you can also imagine the importance of name by this that you all history is in the history syllabus of india.difference is only of name because rajput name is inserted in the name of gujjar,thus you are finished in history.you cant even proud on your own history. My friends,no other caste can demand name because its only your caste's speciality to have historical name.Before 500A.D.Rishi Pananiwrites the twenty names of countries in his book"SUTRA GRANTH" which wre all connected to castes and rajas.he also writes clearly that"JAN BADSHDAB KASHRIYA".it eans that countries names comes into existence by the name of kastriya.At that time GUJJARATwas existing. gujjars,"he that is silent gets nothing".your problem is that you have never asked any thing .you are not only the contractors to sacrifiesyourself for the country now you must have to fight for the right of your community.use electronic media for your rallies in favour of GUJJAR DES and give statements in newspapers and also write articles in newspapers.Atleast people will come to know that GUJJARS ARE AWAKENED NOW. Dr.allah rakha sindhu
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Post by KPS Gujjar on Jun 21, 2006 7:29:47 GMT -5
Hello Dr. A.R. Sindhu,
Please don't be shocked. Let me tell you my point of view. Well this is very subjective and we may hardly be able to build a common consensus on this matter.
Great Gujjar Kings are mentioned in History, many places were named after this caste. See those kings were great, they did exceptional goods to the society as a whole. Their greatness as individuals and groups braught good name/fame/respect .. they were not great because they wre Gujjars. Gujjars are great because they had good kings, good morals and good conducts.
We need role models, we need awakening not just some names. Today we cannot prove our wits by WAR, Aggression and just by calling our self better. We need to do things so that the community be respected the way it was.
We had a good Gujjar Politician Late. Sh. Rajesh Pilot, he was and is regarded as a man of substance. We need few more like him.
To summaries ... Our Gujjar Ancestors proved their mettle by virtue of their deeds and only because of those PERSONALITIES today we feel proud. No one can live on PAST GLORY.
Again "Respect is not demanded it is commanded". We must look for ways to Command it not demand it.
EDUCATION and AWAKENING are the means to the golden END.
Regards
KPS Gujjar
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